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Comment from: Tom Stewart [Visitor] · http://www.puppeteersunite.com
Hey!
I found this posting on google alerts :-) So you tried it out? After viewing yours and others videos I noticed something wrong and maybe I should address it in another video.

The problem is that the eyes are moving with the blink- that shouldn't be the case, please check the following "problems" to see why this is happening.

1) Make certain your eyes (your puppet eyes LOL) are attacked so they can't move- I usually hot glue the back of the eyes to the foam head to ensure the eyes won't move.

2) Make certain the actual wire that creates the eye lid isn't catching on the ping pong eye when you hit the trigger switch- what might be happening is that when you hit the trigger you are causing the lid to close but then it catches the eye= causeing the entire eye to "fold" with the lid.

3) The lid should have some space between it and the ping pong ball- when making the mech, make certain that the curve of the eyelid is bent with some space available for the ping pong ball to move freely. When you put the ping pong balls in the wireand then curve the wire to make the eyelids; you should then be able to spin the ping pong ball freely on the mech. In your video it looks like you have some trouble using the trigger. The trigger should be really easy to use.

4) Don't glue the top lid onto the eye- in your video it looks like the lid is possibly glued to the actual eye. ..it shouldn't :-)

Hope this helps- Just to let you know I would love to take credit for this design, but it came from previous Terry Angus drawings/pics- a really amazing design. I noticed for the last couple of years ppl have been asking tons of questions about the whole blinkin eye thing and felt that if they were like me they needed a visual- I may do a part two version on problem solving why it may not work. :-)

Last but not least- thanks for posting your work! I love to see what others are doing and get a thrill (especially when my name is on it LOL) I love your work and the other blinking eye mech you built is amazing! Thanks for the mention and hope this helps you some. If you have any questions let me know at info@puppeteersunite.com.

Can use your video as an example and provide these solutions on my blog? Let me know.
Thanks!
Tom
29/04/08 @ 00:05
Comment from: Kelvin Kao [Visitor] · http://www.puppetkaos.com
The one you made with your own design looked really good. The motion was really smooth and the expressions just look really alive.

The one you made with the tutorial, like you said, didn't turn out as good, but the way that the eyes moved in relation to the rest of the face did create some interesting effects!
29/04/08 @ 18:34
Comment from: Puppets in Melbourne [Member]
Hi Kelvin,

I agree; my first attempt at blinking eyes was much smoother in terms of movement, and she really did 'come to life' when she opened her eyes. Some good news: I've since been contacted by Tom at Puppeteers Unite, and he suggests that my attempt with his tutorial has made him consider some problems with both the video and the design. You can see the comments he made on the blog post (the link is included below for your reference).

Perhaps there'll be attempt number two in the future!

Cheers,

Naomi
01/05/08 @ 23:46
Comment from: Puppets in Melbourne [Member]
Hi Tom,

Yes, I had a go. I've been looking for a way to improve my blinking eye technique, as the first time I did it, I sort of made it up from my own ideas.

I do agree with you: there seems to be something amiss in the way your technique is being used. In my case:

I didn't glue the back of the eyes to the foam head, I simply inserted the trigger through the material/foam, and then glued the eyelids over the top. That's not something that was mentioned in the tutorial, so you should probably update the video in that respect.

This is probably also answering 2), because I don't think the wire is catching on the eyelid itself, but it's hard to tell as the whole eye/eyelid moves together.

For 3), I did leave a gap between the eyes and the lid, but perhaps not enough space. The balls did move freely on the wire though; there was perhaps 0.5cm between the two.

As for 4), it's a magic trick! I did glue the material onto the wire going across the eyes, but not the eyes themselves. I've just done it very neatly apparently, because other people have suggested that too.

I didn't know it came from Terry Angus - I'll be sure to update my posts - although you're right, there's heaps of people out there who'd love to be able to do blinking eyes.

You know, I have to say that since getting into puppetry I've found a wonderful new network of people who are willing to share. It's amazing how closed off acting and technical people can be; and I too love to see what everyone else is doing as well as share my own stuff. (Thank you for the compliment on my first blinking eye muppet... she's a little evil if you turn her on profile, but looking straight on, she's fantastic)

Yes, please feel free to use my vid as an example, anything to help!

Cheers,

Naomi
02/05/08 @ 00:01

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